2009年9月29日 星期二

豈有此理 - 周一嶽

To : Mr York Y N Chow, SBS, JP Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food

Ms Sandra Lee, JP Permanent Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food

Chairman and Council Members of Chinese Medicine Council Hong Kong

Chief Secretary for Administration of HKSAR

Chief Executive of HKSAR




Dear Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food Bureau,

It is unreasonable and not appropriate to have only a Unique way for 中醫註冊.

I believe and am always be told that you want to uphold the professional standard of the industry of Chinese medicine.

Thus, please allow the PRC's Licenced (Nation-wide) Chinese Medicine Practitioners, CMP, to help build the Industry. They are the qualified professionals. Please have a little respect on them.

On the other hand, you may be aware that your Rubber Chop, the Chinese Medicine Council of Hong Kong, in her website has encouraged your so called Registered CMPs of Hong Kong to sit for the exam. of PRC's Licenced (Nation-wide) Chinese Medicine Practitioners. Why?

Being a policy designer, please be open and direct in a way that is beneficial to the society and the Industry.

Thank you.


Camson Tang

You have a FORTUNE FORTELLING ability - Examination Not trustworthy ?

To : Mr York Y N Chow, SBS, JP Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food

Ms Sandra Lee, JP Permanent Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food

Chairman and Council Members of Chinese Medicine Council Hong Kong

Chief Secretary for Administration of HKSAR

Chief Executive of HKSAR




Dear Sirs,


By now, I really understand that you, Chinese Medicine Council Hong Kong, Health Department of Hong Kong and Bureau of Health, Welfare and Food, all saying that Examination Not trustworthy in assessing applicants' mimimum qualification for the entry of the Industry of Chinese Medicine by the Scandal, 考官放水門生過關 醫生專科試集體作弊 十一月初參加由香港家庭醫學學院的專科資格考試.

I am very pleased to learn empirically that You have a FORTUNE FORTELLING ability.

May it be possible for me to be advised of the forthcoming Mark Six numbers?

If so, I might retire.

camson tang

will you apologize to family of every dead patient?

What is the point of getting the apology from 陳馮富珍 who are proud of getting the unique experience of the death and those being infected from SARS as her valuable in competing for the CEO of WHO.

By the news report in TV, you also understand that she treasures the above experience as her selling point for the Chief of WHO.

Please be understood the personality of 陳馮富珍. The innocient persons died and those being infected from SARS are not her relatives, friends with whom she has nothing concerned.

camson

陳馮富珍 is the Leader of Health Department of Hong Kong

陳馮富珍 deployed and direct all resources by setting the her policies to combat SARS.

陳馮富珍 should bear all the consequence of her decisions that she made.

Camson Tang

Please stay in WHO. 陳馮富珍:若敗選即回港發展

No matter you elected or not, Please stay in WHO where you get the highly respected jobs. Then why don't you stay there forever.

SARS victims do not want to see you back, I believe. Please be informed there are many talented, outstanding medicial guys in Hong Kong who may contribute in the Health Industry by replacing you in Hong Kong.

Please don't come back.

Camson Tang

Wrong Policy & Wrong Decision of former Health Department Chief (2006)

陳馮富珍 bieng the former Chief of Health Department must bear the political and /or even the criminal responsibilities for her own Wrong Policy & Wrong Decision on the way of handling the SARS in which many of innocent citizens were killed and infected.

陳馮富珍, herself should be ashamed of being a practitioner / worker in the health industry. She should be refrained from working in the health industry ever since the broke-out of SARS.

What the SARS experience 陳馮富珍 has learned in Hong Kong is just a mess and irresponsible consequences of her wrong decision /policy on SARS.

陳馮富珍 gets promotion by stepping upon the lives and infestion of SARS of our innocent citizens in Hong Kong.

Our mainland Government, please be understood that other than 陳馮富珍 who obviously is not the right person to get your sponsor, there are still many talent and experienced practitioners out there in Hong Kong for you to nominate as the chief of WHO.

Thank you.
Camson Tang

Exactly against the policies of the Government of HKSAR

I reter to The Secretary of Security Bureau that Hong Kong is lessening her requirements and standards in the immigration plan for attracting professionals coming to HK for prospering our domestic society.

It is clear that the Govt of HKSAR wants to recruit talented professionals to upgrade the quality of our population and I believe the other countries including USA, Australia are currently doing the same. But CMCHK, like a frog inside a well, practise exactly against the policies what the Govt of HKSAR and other countries have long to achieve.

I doubt very much that what the merits are for the better development and the future of the industry of chinese medicine in Hong Kong to have CMCHK still here. It's just wasting taxpayers' money.

It seems that CMCHK, without any decision power, only execute pre-set rules, the job of which can be satisfactorily accomplished by some junior, low ranking workers, the pay of them will be much for economical than that of now.

Camson Tang

「yes man」 最 受 歡 迎 - Chinese Medicine Council HK (2006)

Dear Mr Jeff Leung, Principal Assistant Secretary for Health
Mr York Y N Chow, SBS, JP
Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food
Ms Sandra Lee, JP
Permanent Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food


I refer to the online news from Apple Daily today. I really consider that no matter in commercial areas and/or the semi-governmental organizations, like the Chinese Medicine Council of Hong Kong, CMCHK, the majority members of which appears to be the "Yes-Man" of your Bureau. The rules of game of those members in CMCHK are just like the non-independent executive directors in 海 域 集 團. They do not argue for what is right or not and not rectify what is ought to be corrected in her policy. They just carry out what is being told, without inputing their professional judgement and even sacrificing their own dignity to keep the fake membership titles.

Hi......

Camson Tang



"「 yes man 」 最 受 歡 迎
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對 一 些 老 闆 來 說 , 請 了 一 個 傑 出 的 非 執 董 , 分 分 鐘 可 能 相 等 於 「 放 一 隻 老 鼠 入 米 缸」 , 因 為 這 些 非 執 董 肯 定 會 凡 事 問 、 凡 事 查 證 , 對 管 理 層 構 成 極 大 不 方 便 。 所 以 筆者 猜 想 , 傑 出 的 非 執 行 董 事 , 可 能 反 而 沒 有 人 願 意 請 。 正 如 股 壇 長 毛 ( David Webb ) , 不 少 上 市 公 司 見 到 他 在 股 東 大 會 中 出 現 已 經 怕 怕 , 還 敢 請 他 做 非 執 董 嗎?
在 美 國 , 經 常 有 小 股 東 及 投 資 者 對 疏 忽 及 失 職 的 上 市 公 司 董 事 及 非 執 董 等 人 , 進 行集 體 訴 訟 , 及 索 取 巨 額 賠 償 , 所 以 對 上 市 公 司 的 管 理 層 來 講 , 可 構 成 較 大 的 阻 嚇 力。 可 是 本 港 卻 沒 有 類 似 機 制 , 一 般 小 股 東 亦 沒 有 如 此 財 力 , 足 以 聘 請 律 師 們 為 他 們追 討 , 所 以 馬 局 長 應 該 想 想 辦 法 。
譚 紹 興

2009年9月28日 星期一

A letter to Secretary of the Chinese Medicine Council of Hong Kong in 2005

Dear Mrs Ngan (Now Carmen Chan)
Secretary of the Chinese Medicine Council of Hong Kong


Further to our telephone dialogue about two weeks ago, I appreciate very
much for the meaningful conversation. Hearing your advice, I have just got, on 31st January, a Candidate examination booklet in which I find the above subject listed inside the Appendix I, violating the Section 61(1a) of the Chinese Medicine Ordinance, CMO, Chapter 549.

Where DID the CMO, Chinese Medicines Ordinance, have such a qualification requirement : "Part-time or Distance Learning courses will not be accepted" which is stipulated in Paragragh 3 of Appendix I in page 11 of your candidate booklet, for applicants of the subject examination?

The misleading, unreasonable & universally unacceptable requirement : "Part-time or Distance Learning courses will not be accepted" not only violates the Chinese Medicine Ordinance under which your Council is estabished and delegated authority of administration and scruitiny of the chinese medicine profession but also acts against the international academic tertiary rules of practice.

I never heard of the qualification of "Part-time or Distance Learning
courses will not be accepted" as the equivalents of the full time learning qualifications. There are many offshore Univerisities in the world, including Uinted Kingdom, USA, Australia which are offering the Part-time or Distance Learning degree level and post-graduate level courses in Hong Kong.

The Off-campus graduates obtain the same academic standard / qualifications as the full time graduates do, as advocated by many off-shore universities, taking for an example: The University of London offers external degrees of Law and Economics. The graduates under Law discipline are also recognised in Hong Kong and the Law Society of Hong Kong.

As far as I am concerned, for a professional body to assess the academic qualification for a candidate for registration purposes, she ususally asks if the academic degree is recognised in the related profession in the country the qualification obtained. if it is affirmative, then it is recognised as the equivalent standard. This practice is universally carried out when assessing the applicants who registrate as a member of a professional body, taking for an instance, the Hong Kong Institute of Certfified Public Accountants, which is also set up under the Professional Accountants Ordinance.

The same way of practice currently appies to many professional bodies in the world. Then why the Chinese Medicine Council of Hong Kong has acted against the international way of practice.

In addition, talking about the degrees and post-graduate degress of Open University of Hong Kong which is the local University offers degrees in a distance learning mode. Then are the qualifications not recognised in Hong Kong, just like the way your Councl currently practising?

To conclude straight, the Chinese Medicine Council of Hong Kong not only violates the the Chinese Medicine Ordinance and discriminates the off-campus graduates's recognised qualifications but also the way of practice is not up to standard.

I understand that your Council has done great effort to set up the registration procedures but please widen and be open in treating the status of "REAL" equivalents.

Your immediate remedial action is highly appreciated.

Camson Tang

2009年9月22日 星期二

Why do not consider the current trend of the industry of Chinese Medicine?‏

To : Mr York Y N Chow, SBS, JP Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food
Ms Sandra Lee, JP Permanent Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food
Chairman and Council Members of Chinese Medicine Council Hong Kong
Chief Secretary for Administration of HKSAR
Chief Executive of HKSAR
Dear Sirs,
The world is changing. China is fostering the development of medical practitioners of Chinese Medicine in order to meet the needs of public for medical insufficiency.
Now, as I have already stated in my previous emails to you that Hong Kong is lacking of medical professionals. Then, why not consider the current trend of the industry of Chinese Medicine in PRC?
Here below are some comments about the captioned subject. Hope that it may be of help in considering the review of registration and supervison of Chinese Medicine in Hong Kong.
camson tang
成報, Nov 8, 07 - 10:42 AM
師徒制習中醫 內地准執業有志懸壺添門徑 港業界歡迎新措施

國家中醫藥管理局宣布放寬在內地執業中醫師的執業程序,容許沒有專業醫學學歷的市民,包括本港、澳門及台灣的市民,透過師承及臨床培訓,考取內地執業中醫師資格。本地中醫學會歡迎有關構思,預料未來會有更多港人透過新機制,在內地成為中醫師。

記者葉志賢報道

  在內地要成為執業醫師,不需要一定要在學院修讀醫科課程。國家中醫藥管理局醫政司司長許志仁昨日在北京舉行記者會日時公布新考核措施,他稱,當局容許擁有 高中或以上程度的本地及港澳台人士,跟隨一位從事傳統醫學15年以上經驗的醫師學習,經三年實習期後,再通過考試,便可在指定的省市醫療機構試用一年時 間。

臨床培訓毋須專業學歷

 他進一步說,當試用期滿後,學員便可以申請考核成為執業助理醫師,之後,再從事傳統醫學醫療 工作五年時間,再申請參加考試,合格才可成為正式的執業醫師。許志仁補充,「為以師承方式學習傳統醫學,充分發揮中醫的家傳師授傳統,為不具備醫學專業學 歷的人員,提供另一行醫途徑。」

 香港註冊中醫學會會長陳抗生歡迎有關構思,他認為港人,必須具備大學中醫學位,方有資格考核成為執業中醫師,以便在港執業。他補充,如一些市民無法在港考取中醫學歷資格,惟亦有心志行醫,可以循此新措施,在內地完成行醫的夢想。

 陳抗生又謂,本港有4000多名執業中醫師,但部分中醫生意欠佳,他鼓勵這些中醫師往返內地執業,以發揮醫學所長。

全國研發改進診療水平

  另外,中國將在全國100家醫院和研發單位中,開展中醫診療設備調查工作,以提高中醫診斷和治療水平。與此同時,國內亦計劃在9個省開設中醫診所,如河北 省石家莊市、湖南省長沙市及廣東省深圳市,駐診中醫須具有連續5年的臨床工作經驗,並只可在店內處方中藥,不可以出售藥物,否則屬違規。
文匯報, Nov 8th, 2007 - 10:45 AM
家傳師授獲承認 通過考核可在內地行醫國家中醫局放寬港人考牌

  【本報北京新聞中心記者劉凝哲7日電】衛生部及國家中醫藥管理局提出,放寬考核成為執業中醫師的程序,容許沒有專業醫學學歷的人士,透過師承及臨床培訓, 考取內地執業中醫師資格;其中,香港人亦可返回內地師承傳統醫學,獲得醫師資格後,可在內地行醫。本港中醫師公會相信,放寬考核程序,會吸引更多人到內地 學中醫及執業。 國家中醫藥管理局今日宣布,中國將改革中醫師的准入制度,將民族醫藥界傳統「家傳師授」教學模式納入認證體系,傳統醫學師承和確有專長人 員可在通過考核後可獲得行醫資格。

中醫師制度大改革

 國家中醫藥管理局醫政司司長許志仁表示,日前新出台《傳統醫學出師考核和確有專長考核實施方案》及《考核大綱》,對中醫藥界傳統的教學模式參加醫師資格考試做了明確規定。

 許志仁表示,傳統醫學師承人員必須具高中以上學歷,帶教老師則必須具有中醫、民族醫學執業資格並從事中醫、民族醫臨床工作15年以上或具有中醫、民族醫學專業副主任醫師以上專業技術職務資格。師承人員與帶教老師需簽訂師承關係合同,並經公正方可生效。

毋須考核西醫內容

 許志仁稱,在師承人員跟師學習滿3年後,可申請參加出師考試。出師考試將由當地政府命題,並綜合所學專長繼承情況等,原則上不考西醫內容。出師考核合格後,師承人員在醫療機構中試用期滿一年並經考核後,即可參加執業助理醫師資格考試。

 衛生部醫政司副司長張宗久稱,中醫師准入制度可適用於港人。港人可返回內地跟師學習中醫藥,經上述程序後,即可獲得行醫執照。至於兩地互認中醫師資格的事情,目前尚正在討論中。

 張宗久還表示,越來越多的港人返回內地學中醫藥並取得醫師資格,相信出台的新辦法將吸引更多港人關注中醫藥事業,兩地同心支持中醫藥事業的發展。
南華早報 Josephine Ma in Beijing
Pilot scheme boosts traditional medicine

Beijing is stepping up measures to regulate practitioners of Chinese medicine as part of efforts to promote traditional remedies and meet the mainland's vast need for health care.

Chen Zhu , recently appointed health minister, is an advocate of traditional medicine and is expected to make it one of his policy priorities, according to a Ministry of Health source.

The ministry yesterday announced a pilot scheme under which herbal clinics would be opened within pharmacies in 10 cities, districts and counties.

The trial will include setting standards for herbalists and requirements for their clinics in pharmacies, as well as stepping up supervision of practitioners.

The clinics would start operating in the first quarter of next year and progress would be reviewed in April, Xu Zhiren, chief of the medical administration department at the State Administration of Chinese Medicines, said yesterday.

The clinics would be restricted to offering herbs to avoid the promotion of fake or substandard drugs, he said. They would be required to stock more than 400 kinds of herbs, and their practitioners should have at least five consecutive years of clinical experience.

The central government is also moving to regulate the training of practitioners of Chinese medicine, who have traditionally passed on their skills through apprenticeships rather than formal courses.

Experienced practitioners who meet the requirements for mentorship will be required to sign a contract with their apprentices, who will have to pass professional examinations before they can become certified medical practitioners.

Mr Xu said it was difficult to estimate the number of practitioners who learned their skills through apprenticeships. The new requirement also caps the number of apprentices each mentor can train at two.

He said the regulations were also applicable to Hong Kong and Macau residents under the Closer Economic Partnership Arrangement.

From what we see now, Hong Kong and Macau students are more active in participating in the [professional] examinations [for herbal medicine practitioners], Mr Xu said.

In recent years, we have had several hundreds students [from Hong Kong and Macau] sitting in the professional examination, and the passing rates in the past have been very good.
東方日報 Nov 8th, 2007 - 10:47 AM
內地新例允師承式學中醫
【本報訊】國家生部與國家中醫藥管理局推出 考核執業中醫師的新規定,在讀大學之外另闢途徑成為中醫。擁有高中以上程度學歷者,跟隨一名有十五年以上經驗的資深中醫學師三年,再通過指定考核便可成為 執業中醫師。國家中醫藥管理局及本港中醫組織均認為,可吸引有志學中醫的港人到內地學習中醫。不過,循此途徑考取內地中醫師資格的港人,返港後不能行醫, 因為本港中醫藥管理委員會規定必須修讀不少於五年的全時間制中醫本科學位課程者,才能參加註冊中醫執照試,合格才能行醫。

根據內地新規定,高中或以上程度的內地和港澳台人士要成為執業中醫師,可找一名有十五年行醫經驗的執業中醫師,雙方簽訂師承關係合同,學師三年後,通過省級中醫藥管理部門的考核,再到醫療機構實習一年,試用期合格後參加執業助理醫師資格試。

料更多港人內地拜師

國家中醫藥管理局醫政司司長許志仁認為,現時由大學培訓中醫的做法範圍太窄,師承家傳的新政策出台後,料有更多港人到內地透過師承學習中醫,學中醫人數也較現時多。

香港中醫師公會會長關之義認為,內地當局為中醫培訓制訂清晰機制,令對中醫有興趣港人可透過師徒制成為中醫師。

Referral of IT guys‏

Dear Mr. Tam, the Legislative Councilor,

I want to enquire the possibility of referral of IT guys who want to enhance the the presentation of Income Statement of Accounting software, as compiled with the Hong Kong Accounting Standards, HKFRS 1 (Revised), effective on 1/1/2009, as the current ready available Accounting software could not provide this flexibility on revised presentation of Income Statement.

Please comment.

Camson Tang

PLEASE FACILITATE the Mutual Recognition of CMPs (PRC & HK)

To : Mr York Y N Chow, SBS, JP Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food
Ms Sandra Lee, JP Permanent Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food
Chairman and Council Members of Chinese Medicine Council Hong Kong
Chief Secretary for Administration of HKSAR
Chief Executive of HKSAR


Dear Sirs,
I write to request your kind consideration of the captioned subject.

Please be understood that it is the Government of HKSAR who requests, initiated by relevant professional bodies concerned, for mutual recognition of professioal qualifications with Mainland through CEPA under which I hope ,you may recall, that Architects of PRC and Hong Kong have already enjoyed the mutual recognition of thier professioal qualification and the other professions, like Lawyers, Chinese Medicine Practitioners, Dentists as well as Accountants, are in the way of discussion.

Relating to Chinese Medicine Practitioners, the parties involved in discussion, I believe they will be the Health, Welfare and Food Bureau, Department of Health HK and Chinese Medicine Council of Hong Kong with their PRC counterpart of Ministry of Health.

Please implement the Mutual Recognition of CMPs (PRC&HK) - CEPA

Thank you.
Camson Tang

2009年9月21日 星期一

Augmentation of Chinese Medicine Ordinance

To : Mr York Y N Chow, SBS, JP Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food

Ms Sandra Lee, JP Permanent Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food

Chairman and Council Members of Chinese Medicine Council Hong Kong

Chief Secretary for Administration of HKSAR

Chief Executive of HKSAR

Dear Sirs,


I write to request your kind consideration of the captioned subject.

As the regulation of Industry chinese medicines starts for a few
years, in order to better develop and make it more prosperous, may
I here recommend a way to attract more experienced and qualified
professional(s) from the Peolpe Republic of China to Hong Kong so
as to help improve the image and strengthen the reputation.

No one can deny that the industry starts from ancient China where
has accumulated thousand years of experiences and I also understand
that there are a a lot of academics recruited from China to deliver
lectures and carry out researches in the following universities:
Hong Kong Baptist University, Chinese University of Hong Kong and
University of Hong Kong. In addition, I also learn that graduates
from these Universities are sent ot the Mainland, China to get
their apprentice practising. Therefore, the QUALITY of Licensed
Chinese Medicine Pracititioners, CMP, of China is CONSTRUCTIVELY
affirmed and approved as equivalent as that of Hong Kong by
Profession / Industry and or Education in Hong Kong.

My suggestion simply asks your Council to allow the practising of
the REAL experienced and qualified professional(s) of the Licensed
CMP in Hong Kong by augmenting the Chapter 549, the Chinese
Medicine Ordinance as follows:

1. Section:67 Registration
A person is qualified to apply to be registered as a registered
Chinese medicine practitioner under section 69 if-
a) he has passed the Licensing Examination; or
b) the Practitioners Board has determined that he is so qualified under section 92.

"Proposed to augment:
c) The person has the Practising License of Chinese Medicine
Nation-wide) issued by Ministry of Health, Pepole Republic of
China."


2. Section: 92 Heading: Alternative qualifying requirements
1) The Practitioners Board may determine a person to be qualified
to be registered under section 69 if it is satisfied, after
assessment, that the person-
a) is one whose name is entered on the list maintained under section 90; and
b) has acquired substantial experience, knowledge and skills in
the practice of Chinese medicine.
2) No person shall be regarded as having acquired substantial
experience, knowledge and skills for the purpose of subsection
1)(b) unless he has-
a) attained the standard which qualifies him to be exempted from
the Licensing Examination under section 93;
b) passed the registration assessment as required under section 94; or
c) passed the Licensing Examination as required under section 95.

"Proposed to augment:
c) The person has the Practising License of Chinese Medicine (Nation-wide) issued by Ministry of Health, Pepole Republic of China."

3. S 95: Requirement to undertake Licensing Examination
1) A listed Chinese medicine practitioner who-
a) satisfies the Practitioners Board that immediately before 3
January 2000, he has been practising Chinese medicine in Hong Kong "or Pepole Republic of China" (propose to augment) for a continuous period of less than 10 years; or
(b) has failed the registration assessment,
shall be required to undertake the Licensing Examination, the
passing of which shall qualify him to apply to be registered as a
registered Chinese medicine practitioner under section 69.
2) Notwithstanding subsection (1)(b), a listed Chinese medicine
practitioner who has made a request for review under section 96
shall not be required to undertake the Licensing Examination
pending the outcome of the review.

As Hong Kong is a open society where attract qualified
professionals to help prosper the society. This perspective is
always advocated by the Government of HKSAR, implemented by the
Immigration Department through the Scheme of Attracting Professionals.

We are no afraid of competition that drives to perfect the industry / the entity concerned but we are really afraid of allowing the person who does not qualify to practise that undermine the reputation of the Industry in Hong Kong and this is what the REGULATION means.

I do hope that you may consider my view.

Thank you.

Camson Tang

A Proposal of setting up a e-course for group disucssion

I was asked to write something about the captioned subject, which is as follows:

The course will be about the recognition of Distance Learning Education in Hong Kong as a semi-governmental organization does not honour the degrees of Distance Learning Education and Part-time Learning. Threads will be put up for asking students the quality of Distance Learning Education against that of full-time. What are their views and the ways to rectify the discriminating situation.

Whole group discussion will be employed for the course as views from students may be exchanged among the whole group. Each of them may state/share his/her perceptions about the quality of Distance Learning Education.

First of all, a welcome message is directed to the whole group for students' participation of the subject forum.

Being the Emoderator, I shall encourage students' partcipation by stating current situation that their degrees will not be recognised, (e.g. the Chinese Medicine degree offered jointly by Xiamen University / Open University of Hong Kong are not recognised by the Chinese Medicine Council of Hong Kong). Students being a party of prospective part-time degree holders, will certainly discussand debate actively about the issue as it affects their recognised academic status and even the earning power in their employments after graduation in Hong Kong.

During the one or two weeks, students views may be counter-querried by emoderator in a positive impact and also in a negative impact on the quality of of Distance Learning Education.

Then, views from students are consolidated and summarised and certain arguable points, if any, suggested by students, will be put up for further discussion among them.

Then, a round-up is done for first part of discussion about the recognition f Distance Learning Education in Hong Kong.

Here comes the second part - the ways to rectify the discriminating situation
Thread(s) should be set-up which should link from the consolidated views from students of first part and lead students to think about what should be done in defensing their qualification..

Then, views are collected and round up.
A thank you message should be post for students’ participation for the discussion.

That ends.

Camson Tang

2009年9月18日 星期五

信用卡信貸危機

信用卡信貸危機可是不一般啊!爆起來:

1. 美國大部份傳統銀行有倒閉危機
2. 美金融界面臨崩潰
3. 美國個人消費市場消失
4. 零售商倒閉
5. 生產 零售貨品的關張
6. 出口美國的其他國家的一連串經濟問題
7. 變了全球危機
不能盡錄... 相信其影响較華爾街問題銀嚴重, 小心, 小心o

一言堂政府

上火嗎 !
曾蔭權實在是个好下屬, 忠心聽命於他的主人, 無論是英港督或中共, 絕無異心, 他的主人說了算, 主人就是爺, 曾就當孫子了o
所以,曾的領導理念就徹底的貫徹在他的現政府, 就如作天唐英年所提到的一言堂政府, 在那,曾就是爺, 別的就當孫子了o在曾的眼裡,沒有啥不對, 一言堂政府效率高, 行政快, 應變訊速,多好的管治模式, 唐就是在「放屁」o

說實話, 關鍵在,曾的政策是否利民的, 平衡各方利益的, 如是, 就是好政府, 反之, 就是獨裁政府o

Camson Tang

2009年9月17日 星期四

楊佳 (二)

在理性上, 殺人者死, 是天公地道的, 但咱在思考那个原因, 為何楊佳會干這事, 是條不歸路, 試想一想, 在今天繁華世界裡, 生活條件那麽好, 誰願意去死o 當事件曝光後, 很多各地方的民眾都在為其喊怨, 這應不應該在判死罪前, 充份考慮其作案動機及時實的全部, 才量刑, 就好像剛判刑(無罪釋放)不久的, 一民女在拒被一高官强姦時, 將那官給殺了一樣o

還有一點, 用和平的方式去抗議, 是對的, 是理性的, 但當權的, 不搭理你, 所受的怨屈, 未能解決, 又沒有別人能幫上忙, 時下只有兩條路: (一) 當孫子, 或 (二) 採用較激進的方法去討回公道, 後者, 當然是一个不被認可的方式, 但有沒有別的出路呢?

2009年9月16日 星期三

楊佳

楊佳是應該被從寬處理的o

一個普通的老百姓為何要這麼的衝動,這麼的憤努地在一个上海的公安局殺傷了七個警察呢?這就不是自尋死路嗎?

他人告訴﹕「現在的公安真不是人,滿口臟話 ,欺壓老百姓......」

上海那一幕只不過是冰山一角吧o你看現在不是有很多地方的公安被當地的老百姓衝擊嗎?這就是民怨四起o這樣再繼續下去,跟在四五十年代被推反的國民黨有何分別o可以這樣說, 楊佳跟往前的公產黨是一樣的,是好樣的o楊佳是在受欺壓, 投訴無門, 他跟誰說理去o沒有一個官願管, 楊佳,你的革命, 你是好樣的o

我認為現在的公產黨忘了他們是為人民服務的,他們是革命軍人及他們鐵一般的三項紀律及八項注意了o

回想華國鋒所倡的兩個「凡是」是有一定的道理:
(一)自打尊義代表大會後 ,傅古,李德,周恩來三人領導小組失敗後,毛澤東再被選為最高領導而創立新中國,這不是對嗎?
(二)毛澤東的堅持製造原子彈,這不是對嗎?

窮唄,怕啥o總比現在富有的活得開心o

公產黨是不是要走國民黨的老路呢?

Past letter to Chief Executive of HKSAR (legal aid)

Dear Chief Executive of HKSAR,

I refer to the issue raised by Dr. Hon. Priscilla Leung Mei-fun during your Policy Speech in Legislative Council, about the "Insufficient Legal Assistance for those whose comprehensive assets exceed about HK$160,000".

Unfortunately, at the time Dr. Leung's question was not directly addressed.

Thanks for Priscilla's concern and her action in bring up such an important matter to the attention of the Chief Executive of HKSAR.

I am one of the those citizens whose comprehensive assets exceed the threshold of the Legal Aid Department and thus, I am not eligible to apply legal aid.

On understanding that I cannot bear the court fee in case of failure in litigation, I dare not launch the legal Judicial Review against the decison of your semi-governmental body, the Chinese Medicine Council of Hong Kong despite how unfair and unreasonable of that decision it is.

May I suggest that Mr. Chief Executive, if you win:
do not recourse back all the court fee against the claimants

In doing so, the grievances in the society would be much lower and a more harmonious society will be more highly likely to appear.

Hope that you may consider.

Thank you.
camson tang

2009年9月14日 星期一

「 闯关东」是非常危險的

說實話, 「 闯关东」是非常危險的, 走水路, 從山東出發, 歷程須兩至三月, 途中,有可能碰上清兵的截查, 搶掠, 甚至因拒查而遭炮轟, 另一方面, 海盜又經常殺人掠貨, 船客往往被仍進海中, 無辜的被淹死; 罕路也並非好走, 須半年至九个月才行, 途中有土匪, 惡霸, 也有因水土不服而病死的, 也有因路程太長而餓死的, 都不乏人在, 能成功到關外的, 只餘少數, 為活着, 再兇險, 也得闯o

2009年9月13日 星期日

山東遷徙

其實, 現在的大部份東北人都是由山東遷徙過去的o早在十九世紀, 山東是非常窮的, 土是罕黄色的, 缺水, 莊稼沒有收成, 缺糧嚴重, 災荒年年, 很多人都餓死了, 但在東北, 土是黑黑的, 啥意思, 土肥唄, 種啥得啥, 對莊稼漢來說, 糧就是一切, 能飽餐一頓, 就是莊稼漢們一輩子的願望o從十九世紀開始,「 闯关东」熱就紅火起來, 不要忘記, 還有一朝發財的淘金夢呢!

2009年9月10日 星期四

東北野菜

常見的有二種, 「婆婆丁」與「貓耳朶」o

在老家時, 咱就愛跟咱媳婦一起往後山挖野菜, 最初, 是認不出來的, 時間久了, 就手到拿來, 但始終不及咱媳婦的熟練技巧o

「婆婆丁」挺貴的, 味帶甘, 現在是給種植的, 較野生的大多了, 超過拾塊錢人民幣一斤o聽說, 有一个婆婆, 她長滿了丁瘡, 窮呀, 沒錢買糧, 她只好在山溝裡挖些野菜充饑, 真奇怪, 過了些日子, 她的丁瘡沒了, 鄰居就驚奇的問: 「妳吃了啥藥來消滅了妳的丁瘡?」婆婆說了, 窮得快要飯去了, 那有錢去抓藥, 只是吃了些野菜而已o自打以後, 這野菜就被稱為「婆婆丁」了o

「貓耳朶」, 現在吃它的人不多, 但咱們家的小雞就非常愛吃, 不到一會兒, 一斤多的「貓耳朶」就給滅了o

2009年9月9日 星期三

咱們家的數頭狗 (九)

咱的姨生女今年暑假是在老家渡過的o 回憶起有一趣事, 她的老舅摘了些野生的中藥, 「天天」回家, 熟時全黑,帶甜味, 有滋補的功效o咱的姨生女咀饞, 非常愛吃那「天天」, 咋辨!她並不知道它長在那裡, 她琢磨着, 可以要求「點點」幫忙, 因為「點點」愛亂跑, 舍地方都去過o她就拿了些剩餘的「天天」給「點點」看看, 示意給她尋找, 「點點」是非常聰明的, 不到一刻鍾, 「點點」找到了, 正吠着了, 咱的姨生女就往那裡跑, 說時遲,那時快, 一串的「天天」就往咀裡塞, 挺好吃的樣子, 「點點」都看在眼裡了, 他自个也是一个咀饞的東西, 他挑了綠色的, 一進口, 他就吐, 原來未熟(綠色) 的「天天」是味帶苦的, 咱們聽了,笑不合籠o咱的姨生女也有點良心, 就將所摘下來的和「點點」一起分享o

2009年9月8日 星期二

Through the AIA, you may easily get membership of HKICPA

You may choose AIA which is a bit easier than that of ACCA

The Ranking of AIA and ACCA in UK is 5th and 4th respectively.

Association of International Accountants (AIA) that seems to be a biteasier to qualify as a professional accountant. Through the AIA, youmay get membership of HKICPA by

a. passing ONLY ONE MODULE OF Module B (Financial Management) &

Currently, candidates of accounting graduates have to attend 4 modules workshps and pass the 4 module exams.

b. final examination of the QP &

c. passed the Institute's aptitude tests &

d. pass the workshops of Modules A, C & D only.

It seems that it's a bit beneficial for current members of AIA to qualify in HKICPA.

Below is for your information only.

Body: Association of International Accountants (AIA)
Recognition: Mutual Examination Paper Exemptions
Status as of 19 May 2008: MEPE agreement signed
Deadline for membership application: Nil

New agreement for mutual examination paper exemption (MEPE) takes effect from 1 June 2008 to 31 May 2013.

AIA members applying for the Hong Kong Institute of CPAs membership must meet the following criteria:


1. You hold an accounting or non-accounting degree accredited or recognised by the Institute;
2. You have passed the 16-paper AIA Qualifying Examination in Hong Kong or the U.K.;
3. You have completed and passed the workshops of Module A (FinancialReporting), Module B (Financial Management), Module C (Auditing andInformation Management) and Module D (Taxation) of the Institute'sQualification Programme (QP)*;
4. You have passed the module examination of Module B (Financial Management) of the QP*;
5. You have passed the final examination of the QP*;
6. You have passed the Institute's aptitude tests on Hong Kong law and Hong Kong taxation; ...

I am here just to analyse the facts :
1. through AIA, candidates may exempt 3 modules examinations (published in Aplus) passing rates around 50% - 65% of the four modules.

2. the passing rate of module workshop is disclosed to be around 95% and or more. In that sense, a candidate who is willing (actively) to take part in discussion in workshop, is very difficult to get failed.
By September 2010, assessment (marking for candidates) in workshops would be removed, meaning that each candidates are only requried to attend the workshops only. The assessments would entirely fall on the module examinations and the final examination only.

Does it beneficial to candidates, through AIA, to pass the QP in terms of minimisation of workload and pressure in preparing the module exams.

If candidates consider that attempt the 4 module workshps and sit for the 4 module exams are OK to themselves and/or even better than through the channel of AIA, their perceptions are respected.

Roads are open and freely chosen by those who are interested in.

2009年9月7日 星期一

心目中特首和政策官員合適的人選

特首及政策官員可以是任何人, 最理想的, 就是制定政策時, 在老百姓的角度出發, 必須認知老百姓在是官員們的真正的主人, 聽老百姓的, 謙虛的, 他們存在的維一任務, 就是為老百姓謀福而行使附於官員的權力, 為老百姓辨事, 而不是, 以權壓百姓o

不聽市民的, 跟咱們打哈哈的, 自己為尊的, 都不適合當官

咱是十分讚成徹換特首的, 由此, 可全換掉所有的政策官員是好事。
不聽市民的, 跟咱們打哈哈的, 自己為尊的, 都不適合當官。

「泛泛民共識10萬提名可成特首候選人

民主派 代表中午舉行會議,討論香港未來政制改革的方案及爭取2012年雙普選 的行動。泛民在會上達成共識,指特首提名委員會應增加民選區議員,而只要獲得10萬名選民提名,也可成為特首候選人。

發 言人李鵬飛 在會後表示,會上並無討論「總辭」方案。而與會代表就日後普選行政長官 及立法會 的辦法達成共識,建議行政長官提名委員會,除現有800人規模,亦應包括400名民選區議員。而任何候選人,若取得50個委員提名,或取得10萬名選民提 名,即符合資格競選,並希望盡早或於2012年實行。」

2009年9月6日 星期日

咱們家的數頭狗 (八)

「小歡」是一头雄性的大狗, 打小就被咱小弟買回來, 當時他的身價是一百塊人民幣o 賜名「小歡」就是希望這头新狗會為咱們家帶進一些歡樂, 因為當時「頓頓」 剛去世o
「小歡」一步進庭園裡, 「花瑪」就衝上去, 查看一下「小歡」的性別, 發現他是公狗後, 就跑回自个的地盆倘着o 「小歡」打小就不懂規舉, 經常在房間大小二便, 這令咱們非常不滿, 最上火的, 就是「花瑪」, 一看見「小歡」有不適當的行為, 二話不說, 就給他教訓, 回想有一次, 「小歡」由於反抗, 差點被咬死, 從那時開始, 為避免皮肉之苦, 「小歡」選擇了舉手投降的策略, 真沒出息, 大狗那能這樣, , 但他非常聰明, 他了解自个的處境, 所以打小就纏在老爺腳旁, 永不離開半步...

「小點」打小就跟「小歡」一齊長大, 累了,「小點」經常睡在「小歡」的肚上, 這點, 咱們養狗這麽多年也不明白, 也是头次看見的o幸好, 「小歡」的不規舉沒有傳給「小點」但他的舉手投降就教給了「小點」o

2009年9月4日 星期五

咱們家的數頭狗 (七)

「點點」咱們家的小狗, 他是給咱小弟在水溝裡檢回來的, 由於他个體很小, 就一點, 所以咸他「點點」o 「點點」是一頭公狗, 救他的時侯, 就只有些微的氣息, 幸虧他命大, 靜靜地倘在熱坑头上一周多, 才活命過來o

「點點」就喜歡胡亂躍跑, 要逮他, 沒有那麽容易, 但他一被抓, 他會像「小歡」一樣, 倘在地上, 舉手投降o

證監會法規執行部執行董事施衞民

咱就不明白, 假若證監會法規執行部執行董事施衞民真的如蘋果日報所說:

「施衞民徹查雷曼事件立場強硬,懷疑他因為掌握銀行的「罪證」而受壓不獲續約,因此去信財政司司長曾俊華要求交代事件,認為施應留任至雷曼事件完結,作風強硬堅持查銀行。」

他應該是个難得的好官, 人才呀, 維護投資者利益, 調查銀行違規行為, 龔固香港的金融制度, 應該給他提干, 而不是趕他走。

香港現政府就是是非不分, 瞎領導, 自以為是, 極度主觀, 這樣干下去, 就毀了香港的前途。

全中國中醫執業資格不認, 公共醫院中醫執業經驗不看

根據《中醫藥條例》(香港法例第549章)的規定,任何人士必須參加及通過中醫執業資格試,才具備資格申請成為註冊中醫。除了已獲中醫組通知須參加執業資 格試的表列中醫外,申請人必須已圓滿地完成中醫組認可的中醫執業訓練本科學位課程或中醫組認可與該課程相當的課程,才有資格參加中醫執業資格試。

中醫組說了, 在他們眼裡, 壓根就沒有他們所指的中醫組認可與該課程相當的課程。

什麼條例, 全中國中醫執業資格不認, 公共醫院中醫執業經驗不看, 這對中醫發展有好處嗎?
曾蔭權不理, 什麼特首呀;
周一嶽不管, 什麼局長呀;
食物及缳生局副秘書長, 聶德權還說: 全世界的中醫發展都跟看着他了。 他現在還升官了, 這是什麼的一个公務員升遷制度!
時任的食物及缳生局副秘書長, 麥駱雪玲女士更不理采市民的电話申訴, 副秘書長, 十多萬一月的高薪公務員(官員)呀。

香港就讓以上的「天才」所領導着, 真可悲。

camson tang

2009年9月2日 星期三

人民幣零售債券 (滙豐)

投資與否, 應看風險與回報o

風險:
1. 是不是保本的?
2. 滙豐銀行會不會在兩年期內關張?
3. 如關張, 人民幣零售債券是否含於香港存款保障計劃內?
4. 存最少一百張一百圓的人民幣到稀少的滙豐分行煩不煩, 或會不會蝕差價, 如在滙豐購買人民幣?
5. 在滙豐開立人民幣帳户有沒有附帶條件?
6. 期滿了, 能否一次取回全部的本加息或須數次才行?
7 如本加息留在滙豐, 它的利率優勝嗎?
8. 有沒有在期內流動現金的壓力?

回報
1. 票面年息率係2.6%, 實際利率應較高些 (季派息高於半年一次,更高於一年一次)
2. 比較別的同年期的存款產品, 看誰高一些
3. 你對未來利率走勢的看法

再評估風險與回報, 看誰重誰輕, 才作決定o
以上的只供參考o

香港政府發債一千億元

咱們要嚴格執行毛主席的兩个「凡是」
原話 : 「凡是毛主席作出的決策,我們都堅決維護;凡是毛主席的指示,我們都始終不渝地遵循。」
引用在這裡 - 凡是香港政府提出的, 咱們都堅決反對, 凡是香港政府不願意干的, 咱們都堅決維護o
所以咱堅決不買它的債券, 把錢留在口袋裡, 寧不收利息o